Comments for FGM 2 at http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org , comment 1 to 8 out of 8 comments http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:24:24 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-969 Shiva, Firstly, please do not provide false information. Muhammad was only quoted saying: [quote]Do not cut [b]severely[/b] as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.[/quote] (Abu-Dawud Book 41, No. 5251, Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: ) NOTHING about foreskin!!! Secondly please read the whole article before rushing to defend Islam and provide badly translated or 'made up' quotes. If you read the article you'd find out all the known quotes from the Hadith have been already cited. Being an Indonesian you probably do not understand Arabic and most likely you are just an innocent victim of Islamic brainwashing. - Dan Zaremba Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:58:47 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-968 MOHAMMED SAID "Cut off only the foreskin (outer fold of skin over the clitoris; the prepuce but do not cut off deeply (i.e. the clitoris itself), for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favorable with the husband. "Prophet Muhammad is reported to have passed by a woman performing circumcision on a young girl. He instructed the woman by saying:"Cut off only the foreskin (outer fold of skin over the clitoris; the prepuce but do not cut off deeply (i.e. the clitoris itself), for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favorable with the husband. "A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 5251) While the Prophet did not explicitly ban this practice, his words project a great deal of sensitivity to the instinctive needs of females and their matrimonal happiness and legitimate enjoyment. It can be also noted that he did not say how deep, not to deep is Reference to the brightness of the face and to better relationship with the husband are clear indications of his senstivity and compassion TYPES OF CIRCUMCISION a) Removal of the hood (or prepuce) of the clitoris. This procedure is, to some degree, analgous to male circumcision since in both cases, no part of the sexual organ is cut off. In both cases also, it is only the foreskin, or outer fold of the skin, which is cut off. Properly done, it is not likely to cause any "matrimonial" problem. While some may call it "sunnah circumcision," this is their own appellation and not that of the Prophet (P) who used the term Sunnah only in the context of male circumcision. b) Removal of the entire clitoris (clitorectomy also known as SUNNAH) along with part of the labia minora, which is satured together leaving an opening. This is a form of mutilation. c) Removal of the entire clitoris, labia minora and medial part of the labia majora, whith both sides of the female organ stitched together leaving a small opeing. This procedure requires tying together the child's legs of nearly three weeks. It is called the Pharaonic procedure but may as well be called "mutilation". Molsems state that the second and third procedures were never mandated, encouraged or even consented to by the Prophet. They even violate a known rule in Shari'ah prohibiting the cutting off of any part of the human body except for unavoidable reasons (e.g. medical treatment, trimming nails or hair, or for an explicitly specified reason such as male circumcision). Such necessity or need does not exist in female circumcision EVIL PRAXIS [url]http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/07/evil-praxis.html[/url] - shiva Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:55:42 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-744 Morris, you point out the problem in a nutshell - who can trust a liar? We get caught up in all sorts of mental gymnastcis these days, trying to placate or accomodate the Muslim (and I note that none of this effort is reciprocated) but the bottom line is as you say; the Muslim, any person who adheres to the Koran, cannot, by definition, be trusted! At a governmental level it is, therefore, the grossest derilection of duty to allow our systems of justice and civil behavior to be tainted by association with this creed of liars. With Islam it is so terribly true - one rotten apple DOES spoil the whole barrel. Australia needs to come to terms with the fact that the rotten apple is Mohamed. - Blue Heeler Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:23:07 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-736 I have read that there are 140,000,000 women in the world today who have been mutilated. What kind of culture or religion could condone such a barbaric practice? And where is the sound of unceasing condemnation by Muslims and - yes, feminists? The silence is deafening. Thank you for this most informative, if sobering article. - Wendy Larkson Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:27:35 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-724 Circe, This article contains some of the most sickening pictures I've ever viewed. As a feminist I am simply appalled at the Muslim women who either a) decry the practice but say it is not Islamic, which they must know is untrue, or b) just keep quiet. To all the Muslim women out there: keeping quiet is no longer an option. Thanks to Ayaan Hirsi Ali and some other brave Muslim women, the secret is out - fgm is sanctioned by Islam. Now let's make sure other secrets are revealed e.g. that Muhammed was a paedophile, that the Qu'ran sanctions beating women and treats them shamefully, that Islam urges killing of all non-Muslims if they will not embrace "The Religion of Peace". Once their cover is blown, I believe people will be emboldened to speak out and Muslims will start deserting Islam in droves. - cass Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:15:42 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-720 great article about a disgusting barbaric practise - jay Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:22:12 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-717 OO My god makes you want to grab the Animal nutting tool and find every Moslem man and return the favour, and save the world at the same time. We will just have to recruit the services of Germaine Greer. To orchestrate and give a speech on Women’s rights and Islamic Pigs; some how I can see pink and purple pigs flying over my house before that will happen. That is sick; Very sick. - Dr Evil (PhD) Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:11:08 +0100 http://www.australianislamistmonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755&catid=192&Itemid=68#comment-716 So as usual deception surrounds Islam and it's practices, and it's deliberate. As I've said in the past, how can we [b]possibly[/b]trust a religion which in its scriptures (the Koran) actually encourages lying? Trust only comes from truth, and has to be earned. - Morris Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:36:01 +0100